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president biden is set to meet with lawmakers from both sides of the aisle tomorrow to discuss his $2 trillion american jobs plan. john thune giving us an early sense of what the gop's attitude toward negotiations will be. >> if they're interested in roads and bridges and highways and, perhaps, broadband, there is a deal to be had there, but i think what we ought to be looking at in terms of is having, let's do an infrastructure bill. the president wants to do an infrastructure bill. the sort of big, bold utopian european style socialism proposal they laid out there is something they can try and do another time. >> despite criticism from republicans in congress, the biden administration is confident they'll have the support of the american people. >> we don't have a lot of work to do to persuade the american people that u.s. infrastructure needs major improvement. the american people already know it. that's one of the reasons why
there's such extraordinary republican and independent and democratic support for this package among the american people. >> meanwhile, new details of explosive comments made by donald trump at mar-a-lago as he headlined this weekend's rnc retreat. according to a source familiar with his remarks last night, trump called mitch mcconnell a, quote, dumb s-o-b and stone cold loser and so disappointed in vice president pence for certifying the election. he even praised the people who attend his rally before storming the capitol and suggested the covid vaccine should be called the trumpcine. new reaction on capitol hill as matt gaetz is under growing pressure to resign. the doj is looking into whether gaetz had a sexual relationship with a 17-year-old girl and paid for her to travel with him. the congressman has repeatedly
denied wrongdoing. david cicilline who serves on the judiciary committee with gaetz gave his input last hour. >> it probably also makes sense in this context while the department of justice is undergoing their own investigation of him, for him not to sit on the committee that has oversight responsibilities of the department of justice. but, again, if these allegations turn out to be true, the ethics committee investigation or the department of justice, i think he'll be left with no choice but to resign. if he doesn't, he'll be removed by his colleagues from congress. let's head to monica alba in washington, d.c. so, monica, the biden administration has tried to sell the infrastructure bill to the american public for really the last several weeks. what will they do to try to get republican support? >> well, first on the agenda, lindsey, is to listen. that's why you're going to see this bipartisan, bicameral group of lawmakers at the white house tomorrow. i'm told the list of attendees is still being finalized. we expect to learn more about
that in the coming hours. really, it's going to be a meeting, an opportunity for the first time to hash out some of the common ground and then really some of these negotiations over where they can make changes and compromise. something we heard from some of the cabinet secretaries who really have been tasked with a lot of the outrage on capitol hill this morning on the sunday shows is they are fully ready to make adjustments to the plan that the president first put out in his proposal. that's really different from the covid relief bill where what was initially put forward is what ended up passing almost all together. so, we already are hearing from energy secretary jennifer granholm who says she expects for the process to be modified as it goes along. >> the president is willing to negotiate what this looks like. he knows his current plan is going to be changed. that's the nature of compromise. so, whether it is in one big package or several packages, he
wants to talk to republicans. >> reporter: so, they're leaving a lot up to chance and change there. the other thing here is the timeline question. transportation secretary pete buttigieg was on another sunday show saying he expects, quote, to see major action by memorial day. speaker nancy pelosi expects progress on this by the fourth of july. an administration official is telling us more likely the white house is expected to see passage of this closer to the august recess. you really see shifting sign posts of when they're actually able to get this done. and the secretary alluded to it there. there's also a question of the phases in the package themselves. and we expect to hear from president biden of what will be shown to joint congress. >> monica alba, thank you. tomorrow the third week of testimony begins in the derek
chauvin murder trial. legal proceedings will resume around 10:15 a.m. eastern time. we may see the prosecution rest its case in the next two days. nbc's megan fitzgerald joins us from outside the courthouse in minneapolis. megan, what more can we expect this week? >> reporter: well, you know, our legal experts have been saying all along that this case will likely come down to the battle of the experts. we're likely going to see what that means this week because we know the defense is going to be calling a medical examiner from maryland who will likely poke holes in that autopsy report. the defense trying to prove george floyd died from a drug overdose and his pre-existing conditions, not the knee on his neck for 9:26. the last two weeks have been very challenging for george floyd's family, but this week coming up, when the defense starts to call witnesses, it could be even more challenging for them. i want you to hear what the family had to say about how the
trial is going so far. >> it hurts. they're saying these professionals give you every last breath, his last moments. i mean, that right there just -- it was worse than watching the videos all over again last week. it's too much. it's too much for us to have to go through just to get justice because if the roles were reversed, we wouldn't be having this problem. >> at this point it's just like how many more experts do we need to hear from to know that we need justice? >> reporter: yeah, so very difficult for the family as this trial continues. we know that the prosecution will likely end its case -- rest its case early this week. and then, of course, we will start to hear from the defense. >> megan fitzgerald, thank you. let's bring in someone who is close with the family and the president of the national action network and host of msnbc's "politics nation," reverend al sharpton. thank you for being with us.
what did you make from the recent testimony from the medical examiner and other medical experts we heard from? also, do you think the prosecution will wrap up as early as tomorrow? >> i think that when you have all of the health experts that we've seen, all of them saying emphatically that this was caused by what the policeman did, particularly chauvin with his knee on the neck of george floyd for nine minutes and 29 seconds, and then you combine that with the fact that we saw a video on several days of george floyd moments before the police arrested him where he was in the store, walking around, healthy, seemed to be no problem. then he bias a pack of cigarettes. when he leaves the store, the person that he had given the currency to says, this is a
counterfeit bill. the supervisor says call the police. the police come and george floyd is sitting in front of the store in his car. if he have knowingly given a counterfeit bill, he would have left the scene. he got away with it. he's clearly sitting there, as the person testified, george floyd didn't know if it was counterfeit or not. all of that leads up to the fact that you have had a number of policemen, a number of law enforcement people, including the chief of the minneapolis police saying this policeman chauvin went too far, broke the rules, broke training. i think it has been a very strong case that the state attorney general's office under keith ellison, has put forward. the only thing defense can try to do now is poke holes in causation. clearly when you've seen the blue wall of silence, in my opinion the first time we've seen that, that wall pierced
when you have law enforcement people taking the stand against him, they've got to try to make him look like it was the drugs and not the knee on the neck. and i don't see how they do that given the medical examiner's testimony and many of the health experts who are very renowned in their field. >> rev, we just heard from some of the family members about how hard it has been for them to hear over and over again next krush ating detail how their loved one died. do you imagine, though, that the defense will be just as difficult even if not more so? and how are they preparing for that? >> they're a strong family. i remain close in close contact with them since i did the eulogies at the funerals. and i've went out there, tried to go once a week. i was there this week. we had prayer with them. it is painful. this is their brother. this is their cousin. this is their father. this is their uncle. for aus it's a cause, it's an
issue. but i think they're strong. i think they are spiritually strong even the days i'm not there we talk by phone. we have prayer by phone. and i think they will get through with it. but no one can estimate how painful this is, to watch your brother narrate his own death, no mercy, not an iota of mercy be shown, is a very difficult thing. and to come to the reality that even if the bill was counterfeit, did the police have to arrest him and then kill him or cause his death? you have to ask yourself, if this had been in another community, wouldn't they have said, did you know this is counterfeit? can you pay for this with another bill? why would you handcuff and arrest a man and lead to his death over a pack of cigarettes or a $20 bill? >> well, you had mentioned the really explosive rare testimony we heard from the minneapolis
police chief. during his trial, we've seen that blue wall of silence come down as these officers have testified against one of their own. in fact, msnbc legal analyst paul butler says, i think the officers who are testifying want to model what good cops look like. both for the jury and the public in contrast to chauvin. do you agree here? do you see any lasting change in police departments? >> i think we're starting to see some police departments move -- maryland just came with new laws, even the state of kentucky where breonna taylor happened, we're seeing no-knock laws, we're seeing incremental steps. but we need federal law on policing where we have the george floyd justice and police act that has passed the house of representatives, that is now moving forward for the senate to deal with. it would ban the kind of suppression that we saw in the eric garner case and in the
george floyd case, the compression that causes death. we would sequel fied immunity ended. we would see a directory on police that has abuse so you couldn't do something in one county and get another job in another. we need federal laws so all states would hold police accountable. it's good for communities, it's good for citizens, it's good for police. i think that's why some police have finally come forward, after decades come forward in the george floyd case because they realize they should not bear the burden of where police break the law or act in a bad manner. >> rev, we're talking about the future of policing here and whether there's been lasting change. while we're seeing new disturbing viral video of a black army lieutenant being pulled over and pepper sprayed by police in virginia, this is it for our audience who's watching right now. i mean, at one point this officer -- at one point the
lieutenant said, i'm scared to get out of the car. the officer said, yeah you should be. rev, what's your reaction to this video? >> this is the epitome of an example of why many of us in the black community or communities of color have this view. you can't get more than a lieutenant in the army, in his fatigues, and even that meant nothing to this policeman. as you look at the video, there's not even the hint of resistance. he's fully cooperating. and they still pepper spray him and drag him out of the car in his military fatigues. so, what does somebody have to do other than have federal law where policemen know, one, they can be prosecuted and go to jail and, two, with qualified immunity out of the way, they can lose their home for their family, lose their car. you must show them that there is a penalty. the only reason bad cops act in
this reckless, insensitive manner is because they feel they can. >> well, we know that lieutenant is now suing those two officers in their personal capacities at least for now. the officers haven't commented yet. reverend al sharpton, thank you so much. be sure to catch the reverend on "politics nation" in a few hours every saturday and sunday only on msnbc. a reminder that msnbc reports will take you inside the courtroom when the chauvin trial resumes tomorrow and provide expert analysis of the most crucial testimony. if you're among one of the fortunate americans to get your covid vaccine, how confident should you be that you won't get infected. new reports are raising some more questions. questions (vo) ideas exist inside you, electrify you. they grow from our imagination, but they can't be held back. they want to be set free. to make the world more responsible,
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the associated press reports, quote, from a secure room, a rioters pummeled police, vice president mike pence tried to assert control. in an urgent phone call, he said, clear the capitol. the ap also reports elsewhere in the building senate majority leader chuck schumer and house speaker nancy pelosi were making a similar dire appeal to military leaders asking the army to deploy the national guard. schumer said, we need help, more than an hour after the senate chamber had been breached. these are contained in a previously undisclosed document. it was obtained by the ap and vetted by current and former government officials. joining me is elizabeth newman, direct other of the accountability project and former assistant secretary for
threat security and policy prevention at dhs. do these new details further highlight the inaction of then president donald trump during the attacks as they unfolded and then what happened in the aftermath? >> yes. it shows that there was absolute chaos, that nobody was in charge, that the pentagon -- we still don't know why, but the pentagon was way too slow in answering multiple calls. it leads me to believe there's more to the story and we don't know all of the facts yet. i'm still very concerned that one potential possibility is that there were very senior political appointees at dod, some of the new people that had come in in november, they may have been playing games and delaying the response. or they may have been looking at this as a possibility of an insurrection, allowing the president to declare, you know,
that he needed more military force and leading to some of these theories that people like michael flynn had postulated in december that could lead to trump being able to maintain power, he'd be able to maintain his presidency. so, i think there's more to the story. this is another layer of detail that's helping us see that it was purely chaotic. we really need a commission. we need a commission to get to the ground truth, what happened, when, why did people do what they did or why did they not do what they should do. i don't want to brush aside, there clearly are some very practical security things that went wrong. a lack of coordination between d.c. capitol police and the authorities in d.c. are very murky and challenging, lots of different overlapping responsibilities. so, i don't want to brush that aside. it is complicated, but there's still something -- something
that doesn't smell right and we need a commission to look into it so we don't repeat this again in the future. >> you're one of 140 former national security and elected officials from both sides of of the aisle calling for the 9/11-style commission. it's been three months since the attack. according to a new reuters/ipsos poll, say most of those gathering at the capitol were peaceful. 55% of republicans agree it was led by left-wing rioters trying to make trump look bad and 60% of republicans believe the election was stolen from trump. who among the current roster of gop leaders should be stepping up to correct this misinformation? >> i mean, those numbers are stunning. they actually are very, very dangerous. there was a university of chicago study looking at january 6th. their updated numbers this week, they did a poll in march and it
showed 4% of americans believe violence is justified because the election was stolen. that equates to 10 million people. we do not have the security forces to combat or address 10 million potentially violent people. the only way to get after that is to do -- to have republicans, leaders' voices within the movement speak out and say, the elections wasn't stolen. that yurnt cuts, therefore, the drive why violent -- >> is there anybody on the landscape capable of that right now? >> you know, i see voices trying. liz cheney was on "face the nation" and she was saying the rhetoric is harmful for the country. you see adam kinzinger trying this. there are about 17 to 25 members of congress that are willing to try to push back against the president but it's not loud enough. we really need mitch mcconnell and kevin mccarthy to set a tone that they are going to reject
the violent rhetoric of the president and carve a new peaceful path for the republican party. >> liz cheney held onto her position but she was censured by her own party. i want to ask about mike pence launching a new advocacy group, saying it will defend conservative values and oppose the biden administration's agenda. several former trump officials will be advising the nonprofit, including some faces you see here, kelly ann cod way, larry kudlow. does this look like the start of a bid to position pence as the heir to the white house? >> it does. and i have to laugh because the whole premise that they're building on the last four years and then they tie conservative to that, donald trump was not a conservative. the trump administration was authoritarian in nature. it was a populist, nationalist movement. if he wants to rebrand himself, and i realize he was vice president, he didn't get to set the agenda, i totally get that,
but if he wants to rebrand himself, he needs to put some significant space between him and trump. one way to do that would be to reject what happened on january 6th to say, that was -- that was wrong, that's the wrong direction for our country and reassert conservative values as distinct from the authoritarian anti-democratic values that donald trump represents. >> all right. elizabeth newman, we'll have to leave it there. good to talk to you today. donald trump being donald trump, the former president unleashing against his perceived enemies. but what did he say about mike pence and why isn't pence defending himself? that's next. that's next. introducing colliders. ♪ if you love it, spoon it. ♪ your favorite candy flavors twisted, ♪ chopped or layered into cool, creamy desserts that are made to spoon.
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he saved his harshest words for senate minority leader mitch mcconnell. shane goldknocker, national political reporter for "the times." good to talk to you about this. nbc news has matched some of this reporting, confirming trump referred to mcconnell as a dumb son of a b and a stone cold loser. mcconnell is one of the top leaders of the party he's there to raise money for. does this have to do with mcconnell's speech on the floor after that impeachment vote? >> it has everything to do with mcconnell's speech on the floor. after january 6th and his leadership in the weeks since then. look, donald trump is a problematic figure for the republican party. he is the key headliner for the first donor retreat for the republican national committee. but it's a challenge for the party because he is an animating figure for the base and yet divisive and submissive of other
top in the party. attacking the top republican in the party, mitch mcconnell, by name is unusual, to say the least at a republican donor retreat. these are the same donors that mitch mcconnell is pitching to raise money to win back the senate next year. so, trump continues to be a complicating factor for the republican party that after his one term is out of the white house, out of the power in the house and out of power in the senate. >> but you mention -- you call this kind of a delicate dance between trump and the rnc. here we have trump who's lambasting these gop figures, but also he sent the rnc a cease and desist letter last month saying, don't use my name and likeness, don't donate to the rhinos, only donate to my pac. how is the rnc navigating that? >> they're navigating it, in
part, by having one of their donor retreats at mar-a-lago. it was scheduled to be held at the nearby four seasons, but these donors shuttled over to trump's resort last night to hear him speak. i don't think there's a clear easy answer for republican party leadership because their base is very much still supportive of donald trump. look, the national republican senatal committee, if you look at their store online, almost all things they're selling are pictures of donald trump. donald trump continues to have a grip on the republican elector rat. those leaders who want to break with him, those leaders who have frustration with his brand of leadership, they can't quite do it because the voters -- their voters can't do it. >> is mike pence one of those leaders? he tweeted he wished mike pence had the courage not to certify the election results and he was so disappointed. you added, he likes pence. pence formed his own political
action committee here. is that the only kind of movement and hints or signs you expect from pence so far? >> look, this is what was the balancing act at this retreat. it's not just about trump anymore. there's a whole series of republicans who might just well run for president in 2024 and maybe they don't run if trump does. but there are other folks in the party, people like ron desantis, the governor of florida, and mike pence, the former vice president, all potentially planning their own runs for president. it seems unlikely pence would challenge trump directly, but these other groups starting are the building blocks to have a political operation in place to potentially run for president on his own right. >> before we let you go, we know congressman matt gaetz has been a trump loyalist through and through. he's facing his own investigation, several of them, doj and house ethics investigation. did trump mention gaetz at all last night? >> to the best of my knowledge,
he did not. he did call out several of his most loyal supporters. jim jordan, mark meadows. i was not told he mentioned gaetz. i can't disprove it for certain but i don't think he mentioned matt gaetz, even as gaetz gave a speech at a different trump-related event of trump backers trying to krout line his own case for why he's not guilty of the things he's being investigated in. >> we're showing that video right now. the reason we don't know is because that event was closed to the press. thank you for your reporting. it is the last thing you want to think about after you get the covid vaccine. coming down with the virus. i'll talk to a doctor about how concerned we all should be next. concerned we all should be next. also on the mehdi hasan show, dr. fauci and bill nye the science guy. ye the science guy. i'm not hungry! you're having one more bite! no!
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the terrifying moment was caught on video here. let's take a look. wow. he and his family somehow managed to escape harm there, but truly incredible close call for them. now to the coronavirus pandemic and california. nearly half of the adults there have gotten at least one dose of the vaccine as hospitalizations continue to drop. meanwhile, attention is shifting to june 15th. that is the day governor gan newsom says california will fully reopen for business. nbc's scott cohen joins me from santa cruz, california. this is good news. how are local business owners responding? >> reporter: santa cruz, by the way, is a popular getaway for the bay area and all of the state. they're heavily reliant on tourism. they are certainly excited about all of those things you just mentioned but a little trepidation as well. behind me, that's the santa cruz beach boardwalk. last year they lost the full tourist season for the first time in their 114-year history.
now the boardwalk is back. they actually reopened a week ago on april 1st. there are a lot of restrictions. it's only california residents. there's a reservation system. all of that goes away on june 15th, which is 65 days from tomorrow. so for the folks at the boardwalk, the countdown is on. >> very confident that june 15th is doable. i think everyone, no matter where you are in the country, knows that california has taken the most cautious approach of any state in the nation to covid recovery and covid reopening. we all know that our vaccine progress in california is extremely strong. our testing capability is extremely strong, the protocols we have in place are extremely strong. >> a lot of things, though, have to continue to go in the state's direction in order for all of this to happen. under the plan unveiled by governor newsom, they need to
maintain sufficient vaccination supply, hospitalizations need to stay low. we have 2,100 people in california in hospitals, compared to about 20,000 at the peak in january. of course, they need to isolate and slow all of those variants. and stay vigilant. there will still be restrictions including the mask mandate. here's where we are on vaccinations. again, about half of california residents, adults have received at least one shot. a quarter are fully vaccinated. that includes more than half of all seniors. so, things are all going in the right direction. and now this move toward reopening, again, if we continue this way, is going very, very fast. for businesses, the biggest challenge now is get getting workers in place and getting ready for what could be a rush and hoping we are going to maintain this trajectory. >> i'll echo that sentiment. thank you so much. joining us is dr. patel, fellow at the brookings institution. doctor, i want to ask you about
people getting so-called breakthrough infections. that is, testing positive after getting the vaccine, because a lot of us think, we get the vaccine, we can see other people who got the vaccine, maybe hang out for a little bit unmasked. we know the vaccine isn't 100%. what does this mean about our behavior and what does it mean for how we get back to normal as a country? >> yeah, lindsey, good to be with you. it's a great question because i think people have interpreted that if they get the vaccine, they automatically are prevented from getting coronavirus, period. that's not the case. while it's extremely rare, just several thousand cases of these breakthrough infections out of 66 million shots in arms that have gone out in the united states alone, that's less than 0.0001%. if you do get it, it's usually a mild or asymptomatic infection. in some cases, it has been a severe infection.
again, extremely rare. those are likely to be in either people with chronic conditions or elderly people who might not have mounted an immune response. to answer your point, if we're trying to re-emerge a new normal, i would highly encourage vaccinated people to get together in small settings. if you have someone with cancer or immune-compromising situations, you want to make them aware or meet outside, until we get to the entire country, essentially the world, have the herd immunity. we want to see the levels of the virus decrease to levels negligible. breakthroughs infections we're trying to monitor, which is hard, is whether variants are playing a part. we know the vaccine can prevent the variants but. do not be afraid to have some of
your social contact with vaccinated individuals. >> good information there. you know, we have the good news on the california front but we have, for example, michigan. officials reporting 7,000 new daily infections there. the governor has not ordered a new lockdown. she's asking everyone to take personal responsibility here. it was the attitude of many gop governors even last summer that got a lot of flack. is that the right thing to do right now? >> i think the right thing to do right now is try to do anything possible to minimize where we know there is high-risk activity. i think lockdowns don't resonate with anybody anymore because we have a frustrated public. i think we can target the activiies where he with know we're seeing the hot spots. in the great lakes region, the detroit region. three things driving it. sports activities in the 11 to 19-year-old range and the fact that people are still gathering indoors because it's cold in some parts of the state. we should be thinking about how
to ensure people can get tested, so we can ensure if they're not vaccinated to tell them to try to stay home or limit movements to then get vaccinated. keep in mind, a vaccine today does not prevent a case of coronavirus tomorrow. the best thing you can do as an individual, mask and watch contact. i think a lockdown is not going to work at this time. asking people to protect themselves because it protects their neighbors is probably going to resonate hopefully a little more with others. >> eventually throughout this vaccination process, we knew there would come a time where we knew there would be more supply than people who want the vaccine. there's a new economist ugov poll of 1500 adults in the u.s. 27% say they are willing to get vaccinated. 24% say no. 33% here who had been surveyed had already been vaccinated. one in three americans, that's encouraging. what about that 24% number, what does that mean for herd immunity
and the rest of us? >> yeah, that's a great point we're all worried about. by the way, that 24 keeps getting smaller. i'm hoping by the end of april, by the end of may, that number is even smaller. what we need to do to get to herd immunity, estimates around the world, from 70% to 80%, we can get there, but we do have to chip away at the people saying no. i do think that not all people who say no are created equal. some in that population are worried, rightfully so, about questions around fertility and pregnancy. we need to present them with a little more information and data. finally, lindsey, i heard a number of people saying, you know, i support a certain political party and, therefore, i do not want to get the vaccine. that is crazy. there's nothing about this vaccine that's political. i do think people need to realize is the faster they can have the conversation about why they don't want the vaccine and think about the risks and benefits, then they can see that that will be there their ability to get back to normal. i want to see children in school. i want to see friends hug each other. that's not going to happen by
making this political. we need facts. so, i do think that 24 will come down. lindsey, there's always going to be people who say no. that's their right. i would love to see at least 70% of this country vaccinated, including our children, which should be hopeful by the end of the year. >> we only have a few more seconds with you. j&j, we're expecting to see a shortage of johnson & johnson vaccines dropping from 4 million last week to just about 700,000. what kind can of an impact could this have? >> many of us planning vaccine distributions have heard and expected and planned for this. we're shifting around other vaccines. we're getting to where we're having a little more supply in some places than demand. most people will not see their vaccine canceled. we'll likely be using it different. you thought you might have one dose, you might need two. check if you have an appointment, preregister if you don't because we're trying to factor in the shortage in supply into future weeks. i'm not worried about it.
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property, her family's first plot of land for $425. she and her husband set up a resort that became popular with black beach-goers. her family was forced off the land when it was seized by eminent domain. joining us, a historian and designated spokesman for the bruce family. thank you for being with us on this. a major development came last friday. what are you hearing from los angeles county? >> well, supervisor janice hahn has announced that she would like to see the land given back to the bruce family. the present building there is the lifeguard training facility, and it is owned by the county of los angeles. which is the only part of the beach area that is owned by the county. and it just so happens it is sitting directly on our land that was owned buy our matriarch willa bruce and charles bruce. so she's proposing legislation
along with senator steve bradford and supervisor holly mitchell to remove a clause that says that the county cannot transfer the land without first giving it back to the state. so that legislation is going to be introduced tomorrow, hopefully, on a fast track with two thirds vote of the legislature so that we can get the land back in our possession. >> tell us about willa bruce, and her husband, charles? >> very enterprising people, started from very meager beginnings, and worked their way up to being very enterprising business owners there in manhattan beach. they started out with a lemonade stand, a hot dog stand, and then they advanced it to having a dining hall, a dance hall, a bath house. they sold water novelties there. and they became very prominent people. >> the city council last tuesday voted against issuing a public
apology to descendants of the family citing potential lawsuits here. they zaded instead to issue a statement of acknowledgment and condemnation. would that sit well with the family, be enough? >> no, absolutely not. we are not looking for an apology. we want our property back. we want restitution for the loss of revenue for 96 years that our family would have been the generational wealth that would have been built up during that time. and we want punitive damages from the city council and the police department at that time clueding with the klu klux klan to railroad our family out of there. >> it sound like this legislation would not address those punitive damages. does it sound like a lawsuit imminent? >> yes, it does. i think that manhattan beach city council should try to revise their budget. roads aren't going be the paved, parks are not going to be maintained and playground equipment is not going to be replaced because the bruce
family deserves to have this rectified. they triesed our family. nothing can be done that can replace that. the family lived for five the seven years after this and left in poverty after being very rich people. we are waiting for this to happen. i think we are going to be moving ahead with a lawsuit in the very near future. >> thank you, chief, for coming on today. we hope you will keep us posted on what is happening there. that will do it for me at this hour. up next, american extremism. whether far-right protesters are becoming for cautious as more people are charged in the capitol riot. richard louie takes look in our next hour. riot richard louie takes look in our next hour. ready to eat? yes i am! alice loves the scent of gain so much, she wished there was a way to make it last longer.
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